Desert Fox FAQ
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Desert Fox FAQ Last Updated 12/2/97


This document is not intended to be a universal FAQ on the Indian Creek Designs Desert Fox paintball gun but mearly a compilation of the information I and other owners of this model gun have discovered through use and problem solving to assist any owners or potential owners in deciding what they might do to fix a problem. This FAQ grew from the fact that there was no source of information on the net for this great paintball gun at the time (February 1997).

There is now a Indian Creek Homepage where you can find detailed Desert Fox information directly. As such, I will likely not be adding any new information to this page other than tips and tricks discoverd through using and playing with the gun.


Name:

Indian Creek Design Inc. DESERT FOX

Contact:
Indian Creek Design Inc.
1019 First Street North
Nampa, ID 83687
Phone: (208) 468-0446
(Note: the 888-6130 number is no longer valid)


Design:

Blow Forward. This means that the compressed gas is used to blow the bolt forward and blow the ball out of the barrel; compressing a main spring which then pushes the bolt back and recocks the gun. No gas is used to recock the gun. This differs from the Blow Back design which uses gas to recock the gun and a spring to move the bolt forward.

The Desert Fox uses a regulator to control the amount of gas used to propel the paintball forward. This regulator gives the gun a tighter controll on the velocity and ensures more consistant shots across a wide range of play.

Construction:

The major parts of this gun, just like it's relatives (Puma, Bobcat, etc.), is machined out of aluminum. There are no stamped parts. The quality of the machining looks very good and gives the gun a very solid, well built feel to it. The takedown is accomplished by removing a single screw from the back bottom which allows easy removal of the internals (bolt, regulator but not the trigger assembly).

Versioning
The design and construction of the Desert Fox has gone through some changes from its original design. Two major recent changes have been a modification to the upper receiver and the regulator internals. Indian Creek should do all of the upgrades at no charge to you (you pay for shipping the gun to them).

Upper Receiver There was a change to the upper whereby the new receiver has the barrel sitting about 1/4 inch closer to the bolt. This supposedly reduces ball breakage. The upper version can be determined by serial number. Supposedly, if your serial number is less than 6FX6???? you probably have the old upper.

Regulator Internals The internal parts of the regulator where somewhat modified. On the schematic, there are two ball bearings in the regulator. The most internal one, the one on the right - inside the regulator valve, has been replaced with a cup seal. Dirt collecting on the ball was causing the regulator to malfunction and thus pressure would steadily rise well above normal charging pressure. The cup seal looks exactly like that, a metal cup with a small nipple on the bottom center. If you do not have the cup seal, you have the old internal regulator parts.

Field Stripping and Dissassembly:

I have a small breakdown of the gun available. It shows all of the major components: aluminum, brass, o-rings, springs, etc. There are instructions on how to take apart all of the components for inspection and cleaning.
FIELD STRIPPING AND DISSASSEMBLY

Important Points

LIQUID IS BAD. Probably the most important point that has been found out about this gun is that it is horribly bad if you get liquid into the gun. This applies only to CO2 as Compressed Air and Nitrogen do not liquify under normal playing conditions. If liquid CO2 gets into the gun - the regulator and so forth - things start to go wrong. You can get leaks down the barrel, damage some of the o-rings inside the works and cause cycling problems.

The single most important add on for this gun, in my opinion, is to prevent liquid CO2 from entering the system (if you use CO2). Anti-siphon tanks work somewhat - so long as the gun is horizontal, but getting the tubes installed requires the gun to be present to match the tube to the gun and you can still get liquid into the gun. (I found this out). The solution I have gone with is an expansion chamber and bottom line. Indian Creek sells a verticle mount adapter kit which bolts onto the front of the trigger guard (where the two threaded holes are) and brings the back CA adapter to the front. I installed a Bob Long Expansion chamber with a bottom line kit (for the Lone Star grip the gun comes with) to put my CA adapter at the bottom of the grip. Indian Creek also sells a Colt .45 style grip kit with bottom line adapter, but I like the M-16/AR-15 style Lone Star grip and chose to keep it.

This setup should allow the liquid evaporate and I will get gas only into the regulator. Indian Creek, in an article in a recent Paintball Players Bible, recommended running Compressed Air (as it doesn't liquify), but there are some aggrivations associated with getting compressed air cheaply when most guns use CO2. I also have a remote setup with quick release for sake of lightening the weight of the gun which I will try out soon. I will update this page with the results once all of the equipment has been put through it's paces.

NOISE REDUCTION and ACCURACY. The one thing I found is that this gun is not very quiet. If you want a quiet gun, then something has to be done. I am still running witht he factory barrel; basically because the noise doesn't bother me that much and I like spooking people with the loud POP-POP of my Desert Fox.

Recommended barrels have been the Smart Parts barrels. I have used a Smart Parts All American Stainless barrel (14.5") on my gun and it works well. The guns seems to be much more accurate than before. The beveled interior edge of the barrel prevents balls from immediately breaking if the barrel comes loose; and this is a good thing since I am having problems with the barrel loosening up every couple of shots. Someone elose has had success with an internally rifled J&J brass barrel (14"). I have also heard good things about the Armson rifled barrel as well as BOA Barrels.

Smart Parts Note: I have to make a comment about my buying experience from Smart Parts directly. There web site was very informative and they shipped the barrel promptly as promised. UPS got the thing lost and it arrived late and had a small defect. Smart Parts was very helpful and understanding and got the situation resolved with a replacement barrel immediately. I can only recommend them and say that this type of business should be a model for customer service.

AIMING. The powerfeed obstructs the sight line down the barrel and prevents you from aiming along the sight rail or barrel directly. Another option I am considering is a raised sight rail to get a straight line above the powerfeed, but I'm not sure if that is worth the effort. It does seem to look really cool though and Indian Creek sells such a raised rail.


Things that went wrong


Here I want to list problems that have occured and what the cause and/or solution was. If you have any usefull information to add to this list, let me know.


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FAQ Information obtained from use and examination of paintball gun and reading internet information.
© 1997 Thomas Smailus. Document may be linked to from other pages without permission.
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